animus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:02 pm
I thought I'd give it a listen but had to stop after she mentioned how many firefighters died on 9/11... Not sure why I even cared to listen in the first place. She seems to have still not learned that
most probably nobody died on 9/11, including the firefighters. Not sure if I heard the name Andrew Johnson before but looking at what he writes about Simon Shack and his research
[1],
[2] his stance is pretty clear to me. The second link is a laughing matter. He proposes a horizontal, rectangular black smoke which then turned white instead of just acknowledging that the footage was fabricated. On the same line of thought he and Judy Wood think directed energy weapons are a more credible scenario than a simple detonation in an evacuated, smoke-screened area. Wood's inexplicable "dustification" is not the result of DEW but CGI. And her toasted cars, which were missing door handles and number plates, were just taken from some junkyard and placed for theatrical scenery. How difficult to understand is that simple conclusion? PsyOps are rather simple in their execution. 9/11 might be one on a scale of its own but it is still a PsyOp that can be explained, logically, without having to fall back on weapons from space! Sorry for being off-topic here...
I'm going to have to disagree with you there, the
first article by Andrew sums up how I feel about the situation, that this event did happen, there was some video fakery and most likely holographic projections of planes (see the radar data video by Richard Hall), few people died as the buildings were mostly empty at the time, the towers did fall unconventionally by a DEW, crisis actors were used but in no way was every single video faked, nor was every single person an actor and some real life fire fighters did actually die when the towers collapsed, because they were there trying to save some of the few people in the towers and on the ground. That's their job and I doubt the globalists would have let every single emergency service in on the big secret of what was really happening, better to have a few real people die and then pad it out to appear worse with the crisis actors.
I trust Andrew and Judy Wood more than I trust the work of Shack, as Andrew points out quite well, he seems and unusual character, being selective with the evidence he looks at and
throwing a 9/11 party with a twin towers model for example. Although September Clues does make some valid points, I don't think we should be taking sides here, it's the evidence we should be focusing on:
Andrew Johnson wrote:Simon Hytten’s current position on 911 has become almost surreal – he states that ALL the photo and video record is fake, there were no victims and it was all a simulation. He has tried to persuade some people that basic observations (such as the towers turning to dust) may not actually be correct. Would anyone believe this? Apparently, they would – a friend of mine, who knows me personally - for a short time began to believe that Simon Hytten’s view that one couldn’t determine what happened to the WTC because all the videos were “fake”. The conversation with my friend illustrated to me that “following” someone can mean that they can “lead you” in the wrong direction. However, as evidence is not a person, you are not subject to being influenced by a personal agenda if you stick with analysing evidence.
I've noticed a trend of people stating that absolutely everything is fake and I think it distracts from the facts and diverts people away from the topic at hand. If they faked two skyscrapers being pulverised to dust then I am seriously impressed but the logical answer is that the collapse did happen and then the supporting fakery, diversion and cover up went into full swing. The initial plane strikes were easier to fake, but the collapsing towers had almost every camera in Manhatten recording it and countless witnesses around observing it happen in real time.
daniel wrote:There has been a lot of Science Fiction around since the inception of Project Blue Beam, so there may be quite a few people that question the special effects, flooding YouTube with videos of “pixel errors” on the projected face of God. So there is a backup plan, if not enough people buy the “company God” line... a taste of Armageddon: those “messiahs” get revealed as demonic ETs whom let loose the dogs of war upon a suspecting people, via the use of our own “Star Wars” program, the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI). This was successfully tested on the World Trade Center.
32
32 See the research of Dr. Judy Wood,
http://www.drjudywood.com/ regarding the technology used to destroy the World Trade Center and nearby buildings.
http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content ... -04-05.pdf
I wonder what Shacks large group of forum followers (who do not exactly have the nicest forum manners) would say if more of them knew that they tried to get hurricane Erin to hit Manhatten just after the event to assist with the cover up, sometimes the horendous deeds of the globalists don't go exactly to plan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbOVdi4mLrs
I'm not sure how much you will take in at 400x speed though...
I dislike the Clues forum and find it, the people that post there, the language used, the constant "shill calling" and so on hard to digest. They are also very selective with their "research", despite having fora for various subjects. Not only are all 9/11 events fake but almost everything is... UFO's for example, so do we just ignore centuries of evidence for them?
Gopi did try to reason with some of the posters there and introduce Dewey B. Larson and the Reciprocal System to them but some of the responses were... well, I think it shows why I am not a fan of Shack, his forum, his followers, or his theories... he believes the sun revolves around the earth, seriously:
simonshack wrote:Secondly, I will just say this much: our Earth does not careen around the Sun at 107,226 km/h. It's the other way round. And Earth is not completely stationary (as Tycho Brahe believed).
Good effort Gopi, unfortunately your attempts to educate about the RS got very quickly ignored and buried. There was also a brief mention of Larson's papers on a Nuke Hoax topic and Gopi did a great post on the Hegalian Dialectic but only a couple of posters seemed to bother reading Larson's work and again it wasn't well received.
Gopi, what are your thoughts on Shack and the Clues forum? Personally I think they have muddied the waters by not properly discussing topics, getting to the point where they now believe that absolutely everything is fake... which is a pretty good psyop when you look at it that way.
sharpstuff wrote:The whole World is fake and always has been. The earth upon which we attempt to live is our only reality. Those (mostly) on this forum know this in their hearts.
I'm sticking with the Reciprocal System, logical discussion of evidence, looking to nature for answers and the CH, AQ and RS2 fora, it's only on here that I get the feeling deep inside that this is the information that makes the most sense to me.
the whole video was just a mix of clips they were trying to tie together but I didn't learn anything, if anything it sows confusion and doubt in the mind, which they do on purpose. Just look at the flat earth pysop... so utterly ridiculous but supporters of it force it on every other "conspiracy theorist", commenting and following to make those who do see the daily deceptions seem like fools for entertaining even one conspiracy.
