Insider knowledge or collective

[67kevin]

Hi,
Been lurking this forum. Enjoying Daniels papers and perspectives. Been studying the fringe for a long time. So far I have found this to be an extremely intelligent group without exception. Looking for some feedback on a theory. One aspect of this whole secret knowledge and conspiracy part of the fringe that I have a hard time with is the idea that Hollywood is being fed stories and ideas for indoctrination and disclosure, or that the elitists are black magicians using Hollywood to hide the truth in our face. I think the truth movement suffers everytime these claims are debated because only a moron could believe that this has been done on any kind of a grand scale. Thinks are not kept as locked down as they have been by hiring people to run around Hollywood blabbing for the last 50 yrs. While attempts have been made at controling the Hollywierd narrative to be sure, I believe that it was more a reaction by agents to find out where the leak was. You see, I think that true creativity originality and artistry must contain Truths to even have widespread appeal, and that the space or zone that this creation takes place is not as different from other psychic functioning. Remote viewing, channelling, automatic writing, are all just ways to tap into the collective part of nonphysical reality in an attempt to bring something back intact enough to claim intellectual property rights. No conspiracy, just normal human functioning.

[soldierhugsmember]

I've just posted a message in the ET/ED subforum about Nick Pope (who used to run the British government's UFO project) inviting questions .
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread966916/pg1

[daniel]

One aspect of this whole secret knowledge and conspiracy part of the fringe that I have a hard time with is the idea that Hollywood is being fed stories and ideas for indoctrination and disclosure, or that the elitists are black magicians using Hollywood to hide the truth in our face.

It is much simpler than that. Hollywood uses a technique called "desensitization," by influencing story lines so people are constantly exposed to the same things, over and over, until it has little effect on them. If you notice, there are many series that start off good (like Sliders or Earth Final Conflict), with some interesting and philosophical story lines, then a season or two in, Hollywood comes by and demands the show be nothing but an hour of shooting, explosions, and people running 1/2 second from destruction. I don't even watch movies these days, because they no longer bother with character development or plot lines--just special effects for 2 hours of "action-adventure."

You want to find their "agenda," look at the common factors they are desensitizing you to.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desensitiz ... chology%29

I enjoyed the first season of Earth Final Conflict quite a bit, when Da'an was pretty much in charge of the Taelons and you had enough of their agenda to see both sides of the "advance man" argument. The Taelons were spiritually advanced, and wanted to advance man to their level--something man desires. But at the same time, the Taelons achieved it through their telepathic "commonality," which directly conflicted with mankind's sense of individuality. Had that ambivalence going, where you constantly slid from supporting the Taelon agenda to opposing it. That was GOOD sci-fi, as it makes you think, consider important issues and see other points of view. Then they killed off the main character, Boone (Kevin Kilner) at the start of the 2nd season, because they thought he would object to the new, Hollywood-decided "cops and robbers" format, where the Taelons become nothing but intergalactic mobsters trying to convert mankind into a army to fight for them. If left to its own, it would have been a really good series, as it was envisioned by Gene Roddenberry (talk about someone who knew the "inside track"!)

Remote viewing, channelling, automatic writing, are all just ways to tap into the collective part of nonphysical reality in an attempt to bring something back intact enough to claim intellectual property rights. No conspiracy, just normal human functioning.

Yes, I concur... people no longer have any true spirituality, as it has been redirected to materialism--the worshiping of idols, we call "money." Sometimes I think we should change the name of the planet to Ferenginar.

[daniel]

I just noticed that Hollywood is doing a remake of The Tomorrow People, subtitled "Different is dangerous." (Premiers this October.)

From what I've seen from the trailers, the original TP dictate of "do no harm" doesn't apply, and if you experience any psi ability, they're gonna come after you and kill you. So you'd better stay safe with materialism!

[maeghan]

I just noticed that Hollywood is doing a remake of The Tomorrow People, subtitled "Different is dangerous." (Premiers this October.)

From what I've seen from the trailers, the original TP dictate of "do no harm" doesn't apply, and if you experience any psi ability, they're gonna come after you and kill you. So you'd better stay safe with materialism!

I"ve never seen the original or heard of it; I'm gonna look it up after posting this. I really feel like this is a chess game, a confusing chess game. I've spent so much of my energy looking into the truth, seeking it.

I recently read the 'Annunaki of Nabiru' by Gerald Clark, 'Apollyon Rising 2012: The Lost Symbol Found and the Final Mystery of the Great Seal Revealed' by Thomas Horn, and now I've read your latest paper 'New World Religion-Enslaving the Human Spirit with a Blue Beam'. Then I listen to the new NIN album that was literally released today officially (i downloaded a leaked version of it last week after buying the vinyl.) The two books and the music ... all I can say is that it all makes sense. But I can't put it in words.

Here's some lyrics from one song:
"Hey
Everything is not okay
We lost too much along the way
The passengers arrived today
It looks as though they're here to stay
This paranoia turns to fear
Just who was whispering in your ear?
Keep pretending, but I know you hear
Just how'd we f@#king end up here?"

and then the final track (but all the songs are riddled with seeds ...

" Only thing I've ever done
Ticking time is running out
Closest I have ever come
Ticking time is running out
Oh so tired on my own
Ticking time is running out
Best days I have ever known
Ticking time is running out

Yesterday, I found out the world was ending ..."

As silly as this might sound, I always felt as if the lyrics he sang were somewhat prophetic; if this is the case it makes even more sense that with this album he goes back to reflect on his past albums and even uses the same artist for the artwork for "The Downward Spiral". I'm a musician, and I've had such a hard time even finishing the music, finishing my album because I feel like I bear a weight that's too heavy to bare. But, I need to put it out and first finish it. Seems like now is the perfect time.

[PHIon]

I"ve never seen the original or heard of it; I'm gonna look it up after posting this.

I had never heard of the Tomorrow People either, until reading about it here. Sounds like the upcoming movie remake will distort the originally intended meaning.

There was another geat show on in the 70s called Land of the Lost. A family got lost in the past and had to survive with the dinosaurs. Now that I have read daniel's papers, that show should have had some other people walking around, the "barbarians" probably. I don't remember much about it but would like to see it again, especially to get the recipe for "stone soup", let's see.... bring a pot of water with rocks in it to a roiling boil then boil for 5 more minutes then simmer. I'll bet you get your minerals.

I really feel like this is a chess game, a confusing chess game. I've spent so much of my energy looking into the truth, seeking it.

Since the "gods" wrote most of the old stories, or edited them, I have been trying to take a story and reverse everything, so the good guys and bad guys switch roles. In the Garden of Eden story, the "evil" serpent becomes the protagonist, Enki, who frees the slaves rather than corrupts them in the garden. The "gods", who do not want to protect the slaves from knowledge but keep them from evolving their spirit complex intelligence, become the antogonist.

I am trying to keep this reversal aproach as simple as possible, without overthinking. It's helping.

It's like a politicized newspaper article. Whoever the writer favors will be the good guy. Another paper may write up that "good guy" as the villain. Oops, I forgot. There aren't really two sides, but if there were, some non-rigged debates might actually occur in the media. OK, let the debators think there are two sides so it's more interesting to watch, a real cage match.

[daniel]

There was another geat show on in the 70s called Land of the Lost. A family got lost in the past and had to survive with the dinosaurs. Now that I have read daniel's papers, that show should have had some other people walking around, the "barbarians" probably. I don't remember much about it but would like to see it again, especially to get the recipe for "stone soup", let's see.... bring a pot of water with rocks in it to a roiling boil then boil for 5 more minutes then simmer. I'll bet you get your minerals.

Loved that show when I was a kid. They did have the "barbarians," the Pakuni. It actually did not take place on the Earth, but an artificial planet built by the Altrusians. The most interesting episode I recall was when they climbed the mountains to get a better view of the valley they were trapped in, and spotted people on the top of the mountains on the other side of the valley--and it turned out it was them, and they were looking at their own backs! Non-Gaussian planet, got to love it!

Beware the Sleestak.

[MrTwig]

Remote viewing, channelling, automatic writing, are all just ways to tap into the collective part of nonphysical reality in an attempt to bring something back intact enough to claim intellectual property rights. No conspiracy, just normal human functioning.

Russel Targ is a physicist that has real knowledge of remote viewing and has wrote how there is a theory that all psychic phenomena could be just telepathy.

I believe there is another version of this world more expansive just out of phase with this one that some call the Astral World. From what I have seen we enter that area in our dreams. I have heard also that there are places in this world that contain all knowledge or past and future events as museums. Some of our greatest inventions are there. As Daniel now state, the other side of life is a world where time is space and space is time. This make perfect sense to me because now you can see how someone can travel to the place where the invention is used and bring it back to produce it in a story or such. Directing the physical product in this world can be manipulated by those in charge to achieve there desired results and the author can get his or her 'truth' to the public.

I try to follow every new movie or book to see the 'message' because there is always a grain of truth in there somewhere. Somewhere in this Board is a list of movies that are designed to scare us against aliens. As long as we know the truth that can't happen.

Does anyone remember Time Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Lost in Space and my favorite Star Trek!

[daniel]

Does anyone remember Time Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Lost in Space and my favorite Star Trek!

A list of my favorites! The Time Tunnel was a "plausible deny-ability" for the early days of the Montauk project, way before I got involved. You also need to include the original Doctor Who in that, only available on public television in the US.

But do you remember these: Fireball XL-5, Stingray, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, UFO, Space: 1999, Blakes 7... ah, the days of GOOD Sci-Fi!

[Djchrismac]

Does anyone remember Time Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Lost in Space and my favorite Star Trek!

A list of my favorites! The Time Tunnel was a "plausible deny-ability" for the early days of the Montauk project, way before I got involved. You also need to include the original Doctor Who in that, only available on public television in the US.

But do you remember these: Fireball XL-5, Stingray, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, UFO, Space: 1999, Blakes 7... ah, the days of GOOD Sci-Fi!

Yeah I loved Space 1999, still have the toy spaceship and an annual in the attic! Stingray and other supermarionation shows like Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons and my favourite... Terrahawks!! Zeeeeldaaaaaa!

Does anyone remember Star Fleet (X-Bomber)? It was an obscure Japanese sci-fi marionette show, I don't think you can get a cooler name than Barry Hercules!!

The year is 2999 and the Earth is at peace following the Space Wars. The safety of the human race is ensured by Earth Defense Force (EDF). Shortly before the turn of the fourth millennium, the peace is broken by the appearance of a gigantic alien battle cruiser. Powerless to defend itself, the EDF's Pluto base is completely destroyed and the evil Commander Makara reveals that the same fate awaits the Earth unless the mysterious F-Zero-One is handed over to her.

Unaware of the nature of F-Zero-One and fearing retribution, the EDF presses into action an untested, incomplete weapon, codenamed X-Project, from its hidden moon-base. The X-Project is revealed to be a powerfully-armed spacecraft named X-Bomber.

The series then follows the adventures of the crew of the X-Bomber, namely Doctor Benn, Shiro Hagen, Barry Hercules and John Lee who are joined by PPA, Lamia and her guardian Kirara. They set off to discover the nature of the F-Zero-One and try to protect it from the increasingly desperate Commander Makara and her menacing overlord, the Imperial Master.

Eventually it is revealed that Lamia herself is the mysterious F-Zero-One, a powerful alien destined to bring peace to the galaxy at the turn of the millennium. The series continues with Lamia gradually discovering her true nature and powers while the Imperial Alliance attempts to capture her and destroy the X-Bomber. The series climaxes with the X-Bomber crew destroying Commander Makara and Lamia finally confronting and defeating the Imperial Master and bringing peace to the universe.

Don't forget The Prisoner, Buck Rogers, 20,000 leagues under the sea and of course the original V!