Are we in for a big disappointment???

[Ilkka]

Hi everyone.

Well I might be the only one of you guys how has had an quite an experience from 21-23.12.2012.

First in the night following the 22nd day I did had some pre dreams... dont really know if they were lucid dreams but certainly looked so, however I also learnt of this whole 2012 thing from David Wilcock and then more info from others.
In my opinion all they wanted to point out was to trust your intuition and i've done that for almost 2 years now everyday questioning my higher guide. I've also practised all sorts of meditative state required healings and chakra openings and lately some Ascenction process practices and today the radiation absorbing and transmuting it to beneficial and not harmful. I really dont know if these things help me at all but I havent died yet nor have been much ill, except a week ago I got this flu and have still a bit of blocked nostrils but nothing worse. So I think this meditation helps me alot to keep up my health.

All my life I had been also awaiting for something to happen, but no more because I had to be doing something and I have meditated many minutes per day(adding up to few hours). Been doing some research like going through the pdf files that Daniel has in this domain, and I gotta say it has been very clarifying reading points for Daniel. Thanks.

I dunno really but I think I have been imagined the temporal field today "somewhat" correctly and made a contact to some people - apparently ETs someones whose name starts with the letter "L" but not Lemurians nor La Merians(cuz they are terrestrial) and someones whose name starts with letter "Z" like Zol or Zal something(the names are irrelevant tho). I really think and I also believe that these two races(at first) are going to be the First contact for me atleast, cuz I saw them infront of me space bethween us but not actual times in their locations, but I asked to second ones and they said that the "meeting" would happens approximately 90-100 days and the first ones before that - so only time will tell.

[Lars-star.]

Very cool! Please report back, when it has happened. I would love to hear more.

[Patriotguys]

It is quite surprising that there is a lot of silence about the lack of anything giving us the least little bit of sign that 12/21/2012 was a significant event and what it stands for was for is real. For me I was just looking for the least bit of sign or feeling that confirmed the event. Look at the effort made by the ancients, all over history you can find references to the winter solstice 2012. There were so many philosophers, scientists and/or researchers that spent years convincing us through books, workshops, videos of which a lot of money was used and spent to prove that this time would be significant. When you Daniel shared us your experience, research/papers it was so awesome because it was the right information I needed at the right time. Funny how that works, I think if it had been any earlier I wouldn't have understood the significance.... So THANK YOU Daniel!

Now for my questions for Daniel.....

So over the years when I thought the evil ones couldn't have gotten any more evil... I have been amazed at what lengths they have gone to screw with us...... I live in an area where chemtrails are constant 1 to 5 planes at a time spewing crap 3 - 5 minutes apart 24/7 (5 planes is all I can see so there may be more in a line).... I cannot believe that all of the dumping of Aluminum, barium, and other particulates is just for weather manipulation/modification. Since Sept 7, 2012 the heavy bombardment has not stopped. I do understand that the government is scared of the F1 layer failing and even though they have not admitted it, it seems they know our protection from the sun has been failing for sometime and it just getting worse by the day.

Here are my questions for Daniel which relate to the 12/21/2012 event or lack of.....


Question 1 - Is the chemtrails/scalar waves trying to stop the energies that we need to ascend? I think Daniel mentioned this in one of his papers but is it possible for them to have blocked out the energy that should have hit us on 12/21/2012?

Question 2 - My ears have had a ring in them for about a year, in the last couple of weeks it has gotten a lot worse.. From what I have seen on the internet and talking to other folks that this ringing is far more common then I think we realize. In Drakes update he claims that the ringing was when the HAARP signals were stopped (not scalar).....Then he is now saying you body needs to adjust to the 4D so it is bleed over. He recommends taking GOTU KOLA that it will help your body adjust..... Could the ringing be by a bleed over by 4D? Could the ringing been caused by some type of frequency bombardment from the Scalar or HAARP signals? Or could it be from some change in the energies or magnetism or lack of?

Question 3 - Was 12/21/2012 thought up by the evil ones and did they use time travel to place the necessary proof in ancient articles? I really wonder if the disappearance of documents relating to the organic constitution and the 13th amendment wasn't hijacked by time travel???? Just seems like that whole thing is real suspect how our Constitution was hijacked.....

Question 4 - Is it really 12/24/2012 today??? The thought crossed my mind that timelines have been mucked with.......

Question 5 - All of the above....was 12/21/2012 a made up event to steer us in the wrong direction period and to let us fry while they go underground when the "EVENT" happens....

Question 6 - I watch a video by George Kavassilass titled "Co-ordinated False Light Attack on Mother Earth and Humanity" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaPOE89dZR8. This really opened up my eyes to possible deception of the whole New Age Movement and where people think they are connecting through their Chakras and Kundilini but they are really accessing a light program and they are not helping mother earth by injecting this false light program into mother earths grid. It is a lot to swallow, however I do not discount anything any more. I never thought that the TPTB would just step aside, there is too much invested and I am sure they have technology that we have no clue of....

Question 7 - Was Mckenna right were we did converge? I don't feel any different. Time seems to be running on full speed, chemtrails are still in the sky and our government are still doing unbelievable things to our economy and people...... Are we now on a positive timeline?

Question 8 - Do you think we are still in for some type of event before the first of the year? If the first of the year comes and goes and TPTB are still in control and there is no conformation that 12/21/2012 was real, I think you are going to see tons more internet activity....but not the fairy merry happy stuff!

I have many more questions but I think you get the drift..... do you think 12/21/2012 really is the end of a cycle and 12/22/2012 is the start to the golden age?

Again, thank you so much for sticking your neck out and sharing with us truths that we so desperately need........Godspeed....Guy.....

[Lars-star.]

<deep breath>

[Lars-star.]

The 2012 event was a deliberate hoax by "The Cabal" spearheaded by Rothchild and Rockerfeller, who killed JFK, build HAARP systems to change the weather and made a contract with reptillian aliens, so they could build bases on Mars, the moon and the Northpole, where they and 100 immortal Nazis are planning a false flag operation to wipe out 80 percent of the worlds population, unless they be stopped by the Annunaki who REALLY loves us, because we harvest gold for them, which they need to breathe the athmosphere on Nibiru, which by the way just flew past us in stealth mode (apparently, since nobody with binoculars saw it) but the Reptilians are cleverly hiding in invisible dimension with powers they create by drinking the blood of children which they get from huge pedophile rings that has ties to ALL the royal fammilies (and the BBC).........

oh for fuck sake....can we just focus on the problem at hand, and stop killing and fearmongering and speculating and exploiting and start living on this planet with love and care for eachother and focus on REALITY instead....

sorry if I offend anyone with this rant..but this whole scene is starting to crawl up my ass like a junebug..maybe I should leave this forum and go do something constructive...sorry

[tribs4u2]

Thank you Lars Star! You have made a very good writing to show how we have all been thinking - more or less! Yes we have got to pull ourselves together and stop dreaming that somebody else is going to sort this mess of the World out and start doing it ourselves!

Start in a small way - simply smile at a person you meet and then see how far this smile is carried - as the next person will do the same naturally - 2 becomes 4 and 4 - 8 etc. Help as many people as you can in just a small way.

[Ole]

Question 3 - Was 12/21/2012 thought up by the evil ones and did they use time travel to place the necessary proof in ancient articles? I really wonder if the disappearance of documents relating to the organic constitution and the 13th amendment wasn't hijacked by time travel???? Just seems like that whole thing is real suspect how our Constitution was hijacked.....

I guess you are still under impression of linear time. I would recommend to reread the timelines paper from Daniel (or Larson books). I do not think you can ride time machine, go to past and change something then go to present and make yourself very upset by staring at facet eyes and green faces of your coworkers due to the change.
As I understood what you can do is the change of temporal landscape which is 3-dimension. Then no sense to change "past" 3-d time landscape as it is something that we all are moved through already. It makes sense to change "futute" temporal landscape because we are expected to move through if our timelines will lead to these areas.
It was good example from Daniel that tree is fallen on your road and you can not drive through, you need to take another road, but you always have a choice to remove tree and continue to drive this road (this is the choice that people are not even aware of)
Again same time we all are in simultaneous eternal state of being (as all is one), we are just now and here, ah not, it is already past as I have written , so now, ah no, again past, etc... we are simultaneous with people/creatures which even are on another side of galaxy. We just move through 3-d time landscape, so we all are now are here/now, so if you move in past in time/space you will see the time landscape but I guess not people, objects which are now in "present" here/now. Otherwise you make meet there beings which put their bodies in time/space and chosen that area.

[daniel]

I do not think you can ride time machine, go to past and change something then go to present and make yourself very upset by staring at facet eyes and green faces of your coworkers due to the change.

Nichols and crew tried many times to alter causality (the chain of cause-and-effect, which is NOT the same thing as time). Turns out that Nature has some safeguards built in. The tried that old paradox, just to see what would happen... you know, that one where a guy goes back in time and kills his father, so that he was never born to go back in time and kill his father, thus creating a paradox.

Well, they sent someone back to the past to kill their father, and he stepped out of the vortex and was run down by a trolley car--splattered all over the road. So technically the only thing that happened was that he died before he was born. Nothing else changed.

After several variations of that theme to avoid "accidents," they got someone to go back and actually kill their father. When they returned, he was rather surprised to find he had brown hair-- kept insisting that he had blonde hair. Nobody believed him. Yet his badge and all his records showed and said "brown hair." He also insisted his father's name was Dave, even though everybody knew it was Harry--they had all his records on site, so they could monitor what changed.

Apparently, the only thing that changed was that he was born with a different father. Same personality, same education, same everything else. No paradox; he led a nearly identical life, and the only big change upon his return was that he went insane and they had to lock him away. So they didn't try that any more.

[Lars-star.]

Wow..whats most distrbing to me is that these experiments are, apparently, being carried out by a bunch of psychopaths. I'm currently trying to keep my wery ill farther alive........

[MrTwig]

I do not think you can ride time machine, go to past and change something then go to present and make yourself very upset by staring at facet eyes and green faces of your coworkers due to the change.

Nichols and crew tried many times to alter causality (the chain of cause-and-effect, which is NOT the same thing as time). Turns out that Nature has some safeguards built in. The tried that old paradox, just to see what would happen... you know, that one where a guy goes back in time and kills his father, so that he was never born to go back in time and kill his father, thus creating a paradox.

Well, they sent someone back to the past to kill their father, and he stepped out of the vortex and was run down by a trolley car--splattered all over the road. So technically the only thing that happened was that he died before he was born. Nothing else changed.

After several variations of that theme to avoid "accidents," they got someone to go back and actually kill their father. When they returned, he was rather surprised to find he had brown hair-- kept insisting that he had blonde hair. Nobody believed him. Yet his badge and all his records showed and said "brown hair." He also insisted his father's name was Dave, even though everybody knew it was Harry--they had all his records on site, so they could monitor what changed.

Apparently, the only thing that changed was that he was born with a different father. Same personality, same education, same everything else. No paradox; he led a nearly identical life, and the only big change upon his return was that he went insane and they had to lock him away. So they didn't try that any more.

Very interesting! Right now I am watching "The Time Machine" 1960 version. I like Daniel's version of time travel better.