--daniel on twitter
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My experiences relate to this HP quote.
Hagrid: Well, "Just Harry" did you ever make anything happen? Anything you couldn't explain, when you were angry or scared?
Though in my experiences I had positive feelings or emotions when magic happened. I've looked into the differences between emotions and feelings. Could you clarify the difference? Were I and Harry having strong feelings or emotions when magic just happened?
A speaker here just equated the following.
Body = Actions
Mind = Thoughts
Spirit = Emotions
Relevant?
Hagrid: Well, "Just Harry" did you ever make anything happen? Anything you couldn't explain, when you were angry or scared?
Though in my experiences I had positive feelings or emotions when magic happened. I've looked into the differences between emotions and feelings. Could you clarify the difference? Were I and Harry having strong feelings or emotions when magic just happened?
A speaker here just equated the following.
Body = Actions
Mind = Thoughts
Spirit = Emotions
Relevant?
It is almost a matter of principle that in any difficult unsolved problem the right method of attack has not been found; failure to solve important problems is rarely due to inadequacy in the handling of technical details.
Re: Did you ever make anything happen?
I tend to use the Jungian definitions, where emotions are derived from instincts via the cerebellum, primarily as a survival reaction. Feelings, however, come from the mind and are processed through the neocortex, that execute "program scripts" for reactions based on learned behavior. Basically, you can decide what to do with your feelings, but have little control over your emotions as they are exist to keep you alive. Emotions deal with the body, whereas feelings deal with the soul.Andrew wrote:I've looked into the differences between emotions and feelings. Could you clarify the difference? Were I and Harry having strong feelings or emotions when magic just happened?
It would depend on how you define the words. There are not any standard definitions so when you read a word like "spirit," it probably does not mean what you understand it to mean. That is a big problem in psychology and spirituality--too many personal definitions.Andrew wrote:A speaker here just equated the following.
Body = Actions
Mind = Thoughts
Spirit = Emotions
Relevant?
Based on my definitions:
Body = emotions
Mind = feelings
Spirit = consciousness
"Thought" is too ambiguous to use, as there are two aspects to thought, thinking and feeling. Most people only comprehend the former, but if you read Jung, thinking and feeling are the two aspects of thought (rational valuing systems), just like space and time are the two aspects of motion.
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Talk magic to me
So my Divination professor says this time of the moon phases is the time to communicate and share. It is also one of those times where one should sit back and watch spirit or the universe work, unlike the first quarter moon phase where you're energetically supported to step out and take action. She analogized it to "breathing in and out." There are times where you work and there are times the universe works. This has a sense of reciprocity to it, so I'll roll with it.
Before I went to Philadelphia I told you all about the most recent of my three true magical experiences in my life. Real magick being different from over-clock-time manifestation. It is immediate, and has a feeling of intelligence or consciousness with it. The energy. The effect. As though the result was just too perfect to be coincidence.
My second-most recent experience with magic had to do with a girl I met last year. I was at a public pool and when I saw her get into the water, she was unlike anyone else there. I had a burning desire for her. She was most beautiful. I remember even sitting there relaxed, drinking a beer, (and I'm going to be sexually open here in these stories) I went to half-mast just looking at her. And that just doesn't happen to me. It was a serious "love at first sight" kind of energy. And I went down there and got in the pool after a while, since we were making a ton of eye contact with each other, to just at least tell her how beautiful she was. I would not just sit there and do nothing. She was very flattered, but it turned out she was not 18 yet. I told her that's fine, I just really needed to tell her she was beautiful. For my sake.
So, this kind of energy was stored in my body. Really shook me around. It reminded me of the movie American Beauty. I eventually got the nerve to watch it again, since I knew, from a legal standpoint, God-forbid, fantasizing about a woman not technically 18 is a mortal sin. Bullshit. So I watch the movie, and I remember the part where it happened. (You have to see the movie for this to make sense, but essentially, Kevin Spacey's character is dead inside with his rote life until he sees his daughter's cheerleader friend and falls in love with her and becomes invigorated by her, and she plays along.) Near the end, Kevin Spacey kisses the high school girl, and when I saw it, it was like a flame rose up inside of me, of passion, of love, of lust, I don't care what it was, it just was hot, and right when that happened the smoke detector goes off across the room.
There's a correlation between the mental-feeling experience and what happened in the physical realm. That's not a coincidence. Feeling of passion, fire, heat = smoke detector going off.
And so I'll describe my first real... "Huh??" magical experience.
To make it quick, I was really down and ashamed for a big part of the year in 2012. One of the most depressing times of my life. I finally had some time alone at my parents house. They had left. So I went to bed and I was just lying down. My computer was across the room and the monitor was off. I had the instinct to, you know, box the Jesuit, but I was feeling crazy guilty at the time. I was feeling like maybe all of that was adding to my confusion. But I followed my intuition. It couldn't be bad. I was loving myself, and that was the truth. Right when I came to that conclusion, my computer starts playing sexy jazz music. I was tickled by what was happening. I really thought it was just an "approval" by the Universe when it happened, supporting me in my decision. Saying it's ok. It was just perfect in its timing and relativity to the matter. I recognize it now to be more than just a universal manifestation. There was some sort of consciousness in the energy.
I remember waiting till the song ended to see if it was a fluke, but what had actually happened was that the computer started playing my "sexy" playlist I made on iTunes, and so another comforting song played afterward. But what caused it? It corresponded with my feelings, but it was not a conscious spell or decision on my part. (There was no remote control to the computer or anything.)
Now that I've written out my three experiences, I'll list the possible common-denominators, the possible causes of magick in each situation.
-Sexual stimulation?
-Recognizing/seeing/speaking truth?
-Feeling that supersedes conscious awareness or expectation?
-Self-love?
-Overcoming fear?
Let's just say feeling is the causal common denominator, and that corresponds with 3D time. Does that vibration I emit "stick" somehow to the atoms of electronics and change its receiving frequency and "change its channel?" Something like that? If that makes sense, and that's true, then the question is: how does one control that power, since all of these instances happened without my conscious direction, but with conscious-intelligent characteristics?
Before I went to Philadelphia I told you all about the most recent of my three true magical experiences in my life. Real magick being different from over-clock-time manifestation. It is immediate, and has a feeling of intelligence or consciousness with it. The energy. The effect. As though the result was just too perfect to be coincidence.
My second-most recent experience with magic had to do with a girl I met last year. I was at a public pool and when I saw her get into the water, she was unlike anyone else there. I had a burning desire for her. She was most beautiful. I remember even sitting there relaxed, drinking a beer, (and I'm going to be sexually open here in these stories) I went to half-mast just looking at her. And that just doesn't happen to me. It was a serious "love at first sight" kind of energy. And I went down there and got in the pool after a while, since we were making a ton of eye contact with each other, to just at least tell her how beautiful she was. I would not just sit there and do nothing. She was very flattered, but it turned out she was not 18 yet. I told her that's fine, I just really needed to tell her she was beautiful. For my sake.
So, this kind of energy was stored in my body. Really shook me around. It reminded me of the movie American Beauty. I eventually got the nerve to watch it again, since I knew, from a legal standpoint, God-forbid, fantasizing about a woman not technically 18 is a mortal sin. Bullshit. So I watch the movie, and I remember the part where it happened. (You have to see the movie for this to make sense, but essentially, Kevin Spacey's character is dead inside with his rote life until he sees his daughter's cheerleader friend and falls in love with her and becomes invigorated by her, and she plays along.) Near the end, Kevin Spacey kisses the high school girl, and when I saw it, it was like a flame rose up inside of me, of passion, of love, of lust, I don't care what it was, it just was hot, and right when that happened the smoke detector goes off across the room.
There's a correlation between the mental-feeling experience and what happened in the physical realm. That's not a coincidence. Feeling of passion, fire, heat = smoke detector going off.
And so I'll describe my first real... "Huh??" magical experience.
To make it quick, I was really down and ashamed for a big part of the year in 2012. One of the most depressing times of my life. I finally had some time alone at my parents house. They had left. So I went to bed and I was just lying down. My computer was across the room and the monitor was off. I had the instinct to, you know, box the Jesuit, but I was feeling crazy guilty at the time. I was feeling like maybe all of that was adding to my confusion. But I followed my intuition. It couldn't be bad. I was loving myself, and that was the truth. Right when I came to that conclusion, my computer starts playing sexy jazz music. I was tickled by what was happening. I really thought it was just an "approval" by the Universe when it happened, supporting me in my decision. Saying it's ok. It was just perfect in its timing and relativity to the matter. I recognize it now to be more than just a universal manifestation. There was some sort of consciousness in the energy.
I remember waiting till the song ended to see if it was a fluke, but what had actually happened was that the computer started playing my "sexy" playlist I made on iTunes, and so another comforting song played afterward. But what caused it? It corresponded with my feelings, but it was not a conscious spell or decision on my part. (There was no remote control to the computer or anything.)
Now that I've written out my three experiences, I'll list the possible common-denominators, the possible causes of magick in each situation.
-Sexual stimulation?
-Recognizing/seeing/speaking truth?
-Feeling that supersedes conscious awareness or expectation?
-Self-love?
-Overcoming fear?
Let's just say feeling is the causal common denominator, and that corresponds with 3D time. Does that vibration I emit "stick" somehow to the atoms of electronics and change its receiving frequency and "change its channel?" Something like that? If that makes sense, and that's true, then the question is: how does one control that power, since all of these instances happened without my conscious direction, but with conscious-intelligent characteristics?
It is almost a matter of principle that in any difficult unsolved problem the right method of attack has not been found; failure to solve important problems is rarely due to inadequacy in the handling of technical details.
Re: --daniel on twitter
Seeing a hot young girl and "love at first sight" seems to be just plain crush, even if there was a connection between you two. I have pondered about that stuff and came to a conclusion that it is seasonal and/or hormonal occurrence when ever such an "feast for the eyes" is happening in such a proximity. This is of course fueled by the interaction with the counterpart. For me there are two kinds of ages, physical and non-physical age, material and cosmic sides to age. However there would need to be total understanding between the two when having to go so far as sexual act.
When you understand that as young people are growing up at "teenage" 13-19 years. The hormones are going on so wildly that they would do virtually anything to get some sort of stimulus and/or experience.
Maybe thats why it would be important to way till they grow more older in age since that way they would be more mature in the mind as well as body. As a man I know that it is very stimulating to see young beautiful girls half naked in some sandy beaches. But, I go by some mysterious restriction that prevents me to take any selfish action towards such a lovely "blooming flowers".
When I turn 30 years a couple of years back I noticed that I dont get sexually aroused as much as I did when I was younger it just stopped when I turned 31, like clockwork. I can think more clearly, because less distractions from hormones and constantly being aroused. With age and experiences comes the wisdomness of things.
Have you noticed anything that would be depressing after this sensation has gone? Might not be gone yet even, takes its time like any stimulating drug. Dopamine is the reason most likely in this case, since it is the chemical for good feelings.
BTW in my country Finland the legal age is 16 yrs old. But somewhat debatable meaning 18 years old is the actual legal age to be most sure about.
When you understand that as young people are growing up at "teenage" 13-19 years. The hormones are going on so wildly that they would do virtually anything to get some sort of stimulus and/or experience.
Maybe thats why it would be important to way till they grow more older in age since that way they would be more mature in the mind as well as body. As a man I know that it is very stimulating to see young beautiful girls half naked in some sandy beaches. But, I go by some mysterious restriction that prevents me to take any selfish action towards such a lovely "blooming flowers".
When I turn 30 years a couple of years back I noticed that I dont get sexually aroused as much as I did when I was younger it just stopped when I turned 31, like clockwork. I can think more clearly, because less distractions from hormones and constantly being aroused. With age and experiences comes the wisdomness of things.
Maybe that was just some entities from other dimension that were liking or disliking the way you thought and trying to communicate with you to either keep doing what you were doing or dont do those things. There might be entities that feed on humans on some energetic level. I mean they feed on some energies that we give off, overly positive feelings or sensations as well as negative ones and so on. Might even be the "Macrobes" that are leeching off of those energies, or "motions" as there is nothing but motion. It might even be a timely event when it is time to feed, like shearing the sheeps, not killing them but shaving and taking their fur and making use of it.There's a correlation between the mental-feeling experience and what happened in the physical realm. That's not a coincidence. Feeling of passion, fire, heat = smoke detector going off.
Have you noticed anything that would be depressing after this sensation has gone? Might not be gone yet even, takes its time like any stimulating drug. Dopamine is the reason most likely in this case, since it is the chemical for good feelings.
BTW in my country Finland the legal age is 16 yrs old. But somewhat debatable meaning 18 years old is the actual legal age to be most sure about.
Re: --daniel on twitter
After the magick happened? No. All these instances I've described have a loving energy to them in one form or another. I don't feel deceived by anything paranormal.Have you noticed anything that would be depressing after this sensation has gone?
It is almost a matter of principle that in any difficult unsolved problem the right method of attack has not been found; failure to solve important problems is rarely due to inadequacy in the handling of technical details.
Re: Talk magic to me
It's a lot like in HP and the Sorcerer's Stone. When Dudley shoved Harry to the ground at the zoo when the snake was listening to him. It made Harry really mad to the point the glass disappeared and Dudley fell into the snake room. He wasn't thinking about the glass disappearing. His intense feeling made something magical happen, and there was karma or justice in perfect fashion. There was not only magic in the sense of cause and effect, but it was funny. Like the Force/source field/external magical field had a mind of its own. Consider the following:
http://www.parareligion.ch/dplanet/staley/staley7.htmReal results from Magick are those that affect this 'plane', as every real magician should know: You haven't really seen a demon until it's bitten you, and you've got the scar to prove it. The same applies to such phenomena as stigmata: Imagination is capable of producing events we term as real; i.e. a vision of Christ can produce a real wound that bleeds real blood. This might seem an obvious mind/body connection, and therefore possible; but remember, it can also produce the impossible: statues that weep tears of real human blood etc. Demons and bleeding statues (and UFO's, lake-monsters, aliens, fairies etc.) inhabit a reality other than ours, a reality of the Imagination, a world between fact and fiction. They are fully capable of acting independently and autonomously, and have, since the beginning of time, been crossing over from their world into ours, as countless examples testify. They are a personification of Imagination, but it is not always 'us' doing the personifying. Imagination is fully capable of personifying itself.
It is almost a matter of principle that in any difficult unsolved problem the right method of attack has not been found; failure to solve important problems is rarely due to inadequacy in the handling of technical details.
Re: Talk magic to me
Isn't that an emotion and not an actual feeling that is used to make magic happen?Andrew wrote:His intense feeling made something magical happen, and there was karma or justice in perfect fashion.
Re: Talk magic to me
I would say that was an emotion in that instance. Same with when he yelled at his Aunt Marge and she blew up like a giant toad bubble and floated away. Anger is somewhat uncontrollable even if it is consciously used. It just has a force to it. Daniel had said earlier that emotions come from more fear-based reactions, from the cerebellum. Perhaps we can get some more clarification in this area. This is important to the topic, because my experiences were similar, but were not fear-based, or at least I don't think they were, but the cause is still unknown. But I did include it in my common-denominator list. "Overcoming fear." (fear of loving myself, fear of an attraction to an "illegal" girl, and fear of "dissing" someone [mind-numbing.])Ilkka wrote:Isn't that an emotion and not an actual feeling that is used to make magic happen?Andrew wrote:His intense feeling made something magical happen, and there was karma or justice in perfect fashion.
It is almost a matter of principle that in any difficult unsolved problem the right method of attack has not been found; failure to solve important problems is rarely due to inadequacy in the handling of technical details.
Re: --daniel on twitter
I have a bit of experience with this, so I'll relate how my mind perceives this. Point of interest number one, you were poolside imbibing alcohol. Your ego complex, that which should be in charge of survival of the physical corpus was being inflated by sense gratification. As for it being love at first sight, I expect that it might have been more lust than love, but I'm not purporting to know what internal process you underwent, again, just relaying how I read this.Andrew wrote: I remember even sitting there relaxed, drinking a beer, ... It was a serious "love at first sight" kind of energy.
The idea of 'forbidden love'... The outward manifestations of this, one of which being in this case attraction to youth, is only the surface of a deeper underlying process. I went through the same thing with a girl who was 16 just a couple of years ago when I was 24. Nothing ever came of it, but it was a valuable opportunity for me to explore those emotional undercurrents. She was and is a very aware person so I was able to be completely open with her and she, with me. At one point, I thought I was in love with her. I loved her, and still do as a close friend but really, the undercurrent was predominantly lust. Another big thing that I gained from the experience was how forcefully the psychological process of projection can sway the mind. In the situation of mine and my friends early relationship, there was a LOT of this going on between the two of us. I became aware of the projection as being a product of my attraction to vitality that she exemplified and her attraction to open mindedness and intelligence in me. Your statements indicates to me that you might have been experiencing something similar.Near the end, Kevin Spacey kisses the high school girl, and when I saw it, it was like a flame rose up inside of me, of passion, of love, of lust, I don't care what it was, it just was hot,
I read that as communication from the other realm, after the zenith experience of seeing Spacey kiss a teenager, that your boiling point had been reached and it was time to cool off.right when that happened the smoke detector goes off across the room.
Again, this is just how I read it, but what happened here reads to me of ego/sense gratification coupled with what you perceive as approval from the Universe. I would suggest that it was more of a type of Matrix approval than anything. I could very well be wrong, and this could very well have been a lesson for you to help you learn to really love yourself, but having been dealing with similar things for a while myself, this is how I'm seeing it. You had been having reservations about self love (if I am to take what you have relayed correctly) with specific regards to masturbation. You made the conscious decision to give in. An enormous amount of Jing is expended in the process of creation of new sperm cells. There are stories written of ascetic saints and monks who, due to an enormous store of Jing, likely due to their asceticism, were able to levitate. I'm sure there were other practical uses for the stored energy, but this is the one that drove the point home for me at least. Think of how much sexual advertisement can be found in society today. It's literally almost everywhere. Consider the reason for this. The agenda of the collectively agreed upon reality is to continue ego inflation. Most people are actively engaged in this daily. This manifests as the attempt to, in any way possible, find comfort. Usually that comes in the form of sense gratification which is what perpetuates the inflation of the ego complex to the point that its role inverts and it is no longer serving to maintain viability of the physical corpus but rather is working to destroy it. I'm not saying people who masturbate are killing themselves.. explicitly, but the inflation of that psychic complex does tend towards self destruction as a natural consequence of its over inflation. So, as it stands, with our species collectively moving towards self destruction, the process of entrainment would have us each do the very same. My mind interprets what you've relayed as the matrix reality / agenda giving you a nod of approval towards that end.Right when I came to that conclusion, my computer starts playing sexy jazz music. I was tickled by what was happening. I really thought it was just an "approval" by the Universe when it happened, supporting me in my decision. Saying it's ok. It was just perfect in its timing and relativity to the matter. I recognize it now to be more than just a universal manifestation. There was some sort of consciousness in the energy.
I remember waiting till the song ended to see if it was a fluke, but what had actually happened was that the computer started playing my "sexy" playlist I made on iTunes, and so another comforting song played afterward. But what caused it? It corresponded with my feelings, but it was not a conscious spell or decision on my part. (There was no remote control to the computer or anything.)
"Living is not necessary, but navigation is." --Pompey
"Navigation is necessary in order to live." --Me
"Navigation is necessary in order to live." --Me
Re: --daniel on twitter
Thank you for your input. You're probably correct in the assumption of projecting underlying emotional currents on another. Those currents are difficult to identify, but I'm sure come with age and reflection. I understand life and success as, you got to go through it to get to it. I see life as something that should be pleasurable, gratifying, and loving. Going more esoteric, in the Law of One, Ra says that the photon actually comes out of Love. But it's not the same love with a lowercase L that corresponds with the fourth chakra.
The Matrix as we know it doesn't really have any power in and of itself. It is just a corrupted, collective worldview that is "ruled by" the Elites, but is honestly the slaves that propagate their own slavery, and defend it. They are literally emotionally and mentally broken inside. They've got everything backwards, as daniel likes to say. They ignore information that could empower them and set them free, and instead want a savior to liberate themselves for them.
I don't believe the "Devil" running the Matrix is doing these things to further entrain me into a system. Remember it was Enlil that didn't want us to have sexuality, because it would eventually lead us to thinking and acting for ourselves. That says itself that sexuality is a liberating force from any control system, if it is not corrupted. I understand this sacred energy can be perverted. The real Satanists of the world have found a way to pretty much turn anything that is good into a harmful force, but it's irrational to think that, because they can do so, that it merits throwing out the baby with the bath water. I'm not saying that's what you're saying, I'm only clarifying that sexual expression is a good thing if it doesn't do any harm to anyone else, and does not lead to the habit of drifting.
I believe there is a natural cause and effect with the experiences I've described. I see where I'm stuck. At first I thought it was Angels or the Universe giving me a "thumbs up" through the magical synchronicities, until I realized a correspondence in their occurrences with my emotions at the time. But, now I'm asking if there is more to it than just my own will. If magical nature, like Imagination in the quotation I used in my last comment, is conscious as well.
From Napoleon Hill's Outwitting the Devil, he mentions that all successful people are highly sexed, but they don't use sex as a means of drifting, which is one of the cardinal sins in his mind, and I agree. If nature had intended for us to be consumed by our own sexual processes we would ultimately fail as a living species. Jing is recovered by consuming nutritious foods and drinks of nature (as opposed to GMOs.) Nature should be a self-sustaining paradise, which would be of Love, but Man has inherited various self-defeating beliefs from the Gods. Self-defeating beliefs are limiting beliefs. We are infinite beings in an infinite universe. We are only discovering our true nature by our own development in waking up to the spirit world and interacting with it consciously. ("Synchronicity is an ever present reality for those who have eyes to see.") A part of growing in that capacity is to share knowledge and experiences with others who are on the path of Truth; knowledge which muggles call the Occult, which just means "hidden" [knowledge.] It is knowledge like what daniel has been sharing that has been hidden, because if knowledge of our true selves were understood we could not be ruled by people claiming they have authority over us.27.16 Questioner: Then this vibration which is, for lack of better understanding, which we would call pure motion; it is pure love; it is— it is not— there is nothing that is yet condensed, shall we say, to form any type or density of illusion. This Love then creates by this process of vibration a photon, as we call it, which is the basic particle of light. This photon then, by added vibrations and rotations, further condenses into particles of the densities, the various densities that we experience. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
The Matrix as we know it doesn't really have any power in and of itself. It is just a corrupted, collective worldview that is "ruled by" the Elites, but is honestly the slaves that propagate their own slavery, and defend it. They are literally emotionally and mentally broken inside. They've got everything backwards, as daniel likes to say. They ignore information that could empower them and set them free, and instead want a savior to liberate themselves for them.
I don't believe the "Devil" running the Matrix is doing these things to further entrain me into a system. Remember it was Enlil that didn't want us to have sexuality, because it would eventually lead us to thinking and acting for ourselves. That says itself that sexuality is a liberating force from any control system, if it is not corrupted. I understand this sacred energy can be perverted. The real Satanists of the world have found a way to pretty much turn anything that is good into a harmful force, but it's irrational to think that, because they can do so, that it merits throwing out the baby with the bath water. I'm not saying that's what you're saying, I'm only clarifying that sexual expression is a good thing if it doesn't do any harm to anyone else, and does not lead to the habit of drifting.
I believe there is a natural cause and effect with the experiences I've described. I see where I'm stuck. At first I thought it was Angels or the Universe giving me a "thumbs up" through the magical synchronicities, until I realized a correspondence in their occurrences with my emotions at the time. But, now I'm asking if there is more to it than just my own will. If magical nature, like Imagination in the quotation I used in my last comment, is conscious as well.
It is almost a matter of principle that in any difficult unsolved problem the right method of attack has not been found; failure to solve important problems is rarely due to inadequacy in the handling of technical details.