Astral or Temporal Landscape?

[4KAAG]

So when I have vivid dreams in various settings, I recognize them as traveling my own temporal landscape. I can pull meaning from them, and if I can remember enough, I'll write them down. Over the past couple years, I had suffered from sleep paralysis until I found that it was actually a service to me to breathe and relax under duress. The more I learned to do so, my dreams turned deeper into my subconscious, in so far as melting myself into physical objects, seeing powerfully lit, high-definition, multicolored stars in the sky, etc. They had a different quality to them, let's say.

Last night I had both a normal, vivid dream that I could take meaning from by symbolism, and another dream where, I suppose it was out of the hypnagogic state, I floated out of my bed to the left and stood upright. I could walk very easily, easiest as it's been thus far (out of a process that's kind of like learning how to walk again, but with different legs). I walk aroundside my bed and I see my door is creaked open and there's light shining out of it. I'm walking to open it when my head becomes automatically fixed on something I'm afraid of on the other side of my bed. Like the light was projecting something onto the floor. Without going into great description of what I saw there, I just want to note that I have, for whatever reason, had a fear of monsters grabbing my ankles at night whenever I walk to that side of the bed. It was just an image of my niece, on the floor, climbing a ladder with leaves wrapped around her. It brought a lot of things to my conscious attention as I awoke, as to the consequences of my life improving. But my question is, is it in the nature of the temporal landscape to be full of your own unconscious signals or roadblocks to help you deal with future matters that are probable in the timeline you are on (the niece in leaves could also serve as precognition of meeting a woman with abundance, and how I would feel about that).

As I'm typing this I feel these are the characteristics of being more lucid in the temporal landscape. But I was "there" more-so than in any other dream, so I didn't know if it was more akin to astral-travel, let's say, given the different quality to it. Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks.

[Ilkka]

I believe its more towards Astral than Temporal Landscape. The dream worlds I mean and I'm also more in there in all of my dreams since 20.12.2012.(sry finnish style to type day/month/year which seems to be most orderly fashion to me)

[CircleofOne]

From what I've pieced together from the Ra Material in trying to make sense of some cosmology for myself, the Astral plane is part of the temporal landscape, or time/space. Ra refers to the astral planes as one of the inner planes of Earth, inner I'm assuming meaning time/space. I could be completely incorrect, but that's just how I'm seeing it at the moment.

[4KAAG]

Yeah but there's no silver cord attatched to me in them. But very noticable objects (unconscious symbols) are present. Objective lucidity also present, being able to examine my house in the other realm knowing I just "transferred" to it byrelaxing into my paralysis.

[daniel]

The conventional term of the "astral plane" does have the same properties as Larson's "cosmic sector" (3D time), the realm of time/space or the "metaphysical" realm. Carla got the association of time/space to the metaphysical from Bruce (RS2), when he was contributing to The Wanderer's Handbook.

The "etheric plane" is the shadow of time upon space, what Larson calls "equivalent space."

Something to note is that there are two "etheric planes," the conventional one visible around the corporeal body, and the 3D spatial projection upon time, "equivalent time," that the SOUL sees as intuition about someone.

[Juanter]

I finally got around to reading the kabalion this week. I know this may be old hat to many of you, but ialwayswondered exactly what hermetics actually was. This is a grat crash course for you that don't know http://www.kybalion.org/kybalion.php

I found it interesting that larsons teachings are so intertwined with the hermetic principles, as if he was subconsciously becoming the "hermetic scientist.".

[PHIon]

The "etheric plane" is the shadow of time upon space, what Larson calls "equivalent space."

Something to note is that there are two "etheric planes," the conventional one visible around the corporeal body, and the 3D spatial projection upon time, "equivalent time," that the SOUL sees as intuition about someone.

Daniel,

When the term "plane" is used, is that a sphere extended until it becomes a plane? Or a level of consciousness?

Since nature uses spirals in space, at what level are the lines and planes? Is this the temporal 3D time realm?

[daniel]

When the term "plane" is used, is that a sphere extended until it becomes a plane? Or a level of consciousness?

It is an "ontological plane," not a geometric one. Consider it like a channel on a television, where similar stuff is grouped (normally by level of complexity, density).

Since nature uses spirals in space, at what level are the lines and planes? Is this the temporal 3D time realm?

In any 3D geometry, points and planes are duals (geometric reciprocals). As such, the 3D, point-based vacuum of space is balanced by the 3D, plane-based aether of time. Lines occur at the intersection, as you can connect 2 points to make a line, or intersect 2 planes to make a line.

Any time you have yin-yang (time-space), you have a combination of linear + rotational = spiral. It's everywhere.

[Evansville64]

Your two-hundred-and-twenty-second post, Danial.. Intresting, sometimes I feel things, being current events, are somehow dictated by a higher form of ourselves. Highly advanced, divine aspects of ourselfs, of which most muggles are oblivious of, guide us to where they sit now.. Fascinating

[daniel]

If you want to read some very interesting research on the "astral plane" of the dreamscape, you should look at LoneBear's entries on Antiquatis: Dream Research -- and Development.

That, and the discussion on Ra's concept of the Logos, have been making me rethink the whole idea of the "divine," to see where the concept originates.

"Divine" is Latin for "god-like." And given the "gods" were the militant, saurian Annunaki, would not that make the NWO folks the most "god-like," and therefore "divine?"

Really got to wonder how much stuff we've been taught IS backwards.